Playboys Executive Editor, Stephen Randall, writes about Kato Kaelin in his new book, The Other Side of Mulholland. I thought, what is so special about Kato except that he became famous by being at the wrong place at the wrong time (the tragic OJ drama) - famous by accident, and a symbol of the struggling actor in L.A., the big break coming when one would least expect, not for ability or even connections but by some quirk of the sleezy media machine. Kato - an icon almost, for that mercurial status: celebrity. Or is his charisma displayed at the Trial really real? Intrigued by why Randall was impressed enough with Kato to write about him in his book, and wondering what ever did happen to him, I searched him out, and found him lying poolside at the Mansion. What I also found was a like-able, talented, hard-working, genuine charming guy with a dynamite project in the works.
A Is that your own hair color, red?
K No, my daughter wanted me to do it like this.
A I understand that you have a project in development called Houseguest. Where did the idea come from?
K Well, it was sort of a natural for me, because during that phase of my life I was known as Americas favorite houseguest, and I said, why dont I just live with people, and knock on doors across America. And I told my buddy Dan, whos a producer over at Sony. He said its a great idea. Lets just shoot it ourselves, and we did. And everything was... it was better than we expected.
A When did you start shooting?
K We started shooting 2 weeks ago.
A What is it about, how does it start?
K Its about half an hour, thank you, goodnight. Ok, its about a, uh [laughing] I just get 2 camera guys, a producer and myself. We a throw a dart at a map of the United States, and wherever it lands, we decided that thats where were going to go. And we missed Hawaii, so we went to Fresno. So we ended up going to Fresno, California and randomly just picked a neighborhood. And I just started knocking on doors, and you know, there was quite a few doors, and I would decide if I wanted to stay with them. Other-wise people would just slam the door on me.
A Did people recognize you?
K Yea, well its off and on I wore glasses and a baseball cap. We had a hidden camera in the van with tinted windows.
A So people didnt know they were being photographed?
K No, but after we told them, they signed a release form.
A Oh, ok.
K We had all the realeases.
A Ok, so then finally
K So finally get a family, and they took me in. It was on Fathers Day, and they were having a big pool party with about 20 people, but 11 of them were their kids, so I ended up staying with that family.
A What
about the next family?
K The
next family was a business
woman.
A Single
woman?
K Single
woman, house of single woman, and certain things things happened I cant tell just yet. We have to wait for the premier, but funny stuff. Its better than Big Brother and Survivor, thats all Ill say. Survivor in the
Outback, I mean how hard can it be to actually survive in a steak house? Thats 2 jokes, the Outback, thank you. Come on you guys, get with this gang here!
A So what about the third place you said?
K I had another family that we - accepted us. I decided not to stay there after a while.
A Did you stay there for an hour or so?
K I stayed there for about 2 hours, and I told them we were gonna come right back, but we took off, they were a great family but we just, uh, there just wasnt enough going on for me. You know, they had great looking daughters and uh, real hip parents, but we decided that, lets move on, maybe something different we can get, and we went to a trailer park, we went all over.
A Did you get kicked out by one of them?
K I got kicked out by a few people.
A After you stayed?
K No no, I never got kicked out of a house that I stayed. I left a house, but there are people that, when I went to the door, just slammed the door, and some people were, the daughters probably home alone, and she got scared and slammed the door. So it was, I realized the Neighborhoiod Watch probably is working in certain neighborhoods, Katos coming! Please, slam the door!
A So what did you say when you knocked on the door, Hello, Im Kato Kaelin or what?
K Im TVs Kato Kaelin.
A TVs Kato Kaelin?
K Hi, Im TVs Kato Kaelin, and uh, I said, Im supposed to be staying at your house this weekend, and they looked puzzled, and I said, No Im staying here. Iim gonna chill out for the weekend with your family, and uh, can I just move my stuff in now? What kind of a room do I have? And they theyd just freak-out. Either they would let me in or just slam the door, or they would just scream, MOm, DAd, and a lot of times, you know, see the house, give me a tour of the place. Like I said, I went through the refrigerators, I went through their drawers, I did everything.
A You went through their drawers?
K Certain people, I went through their drawers.
A Did you stay up all night?
K I pretty much never slept in 4 days. We stayed up the first night. We went out with the girls and all their friends they called, and we ended up going to some college party. And we went to, uh, the dormitories at Fresno State and got in about 4 or 5am, and the next thing I was doing was a step class.
A An Irish step class?
K No, its just a step class, you know a workout, it was a no sleep week.
A Have you thrown a dart again?
K Well, we havent thrown a dart again, but were thinking Michigan for some reason. Michigan, maybe Miami is where Im going to be aiming. So thats where Id like to go. Actually, we want to stay away from the major cities. We like to get suburbs, we dont want to hit, like, Manhattan, wed rather hit Albany.
A And what do you plan to do with this, is it going to be an hour pilot?
K No its a half hour pilot. We already have interest in network, cable, were throwing a very big premiere party.
A Are we going to get invited?
K Well yea, of course! Actually you can review it. But I think the important thing is this, that funny is funny, when you dont have a laugh track, and you have families that are actually laughing, you cant replace that laugh track, because you realize whats going on there, really laughing, its genuine, and nothings made up, so...
A Do you think people are craving genuine these days?
K I think so, reality TV, I see mine as being a real show, not reality TV. I think my thrust is totally different. I am that houseguest living with a family, and I think some reality shows are planting things. I think our show is markedly genuine, and theres a theme that goes through our show, comparing different families from different cultures. Its just amazing to see how all the different people - its all basically the same thing, that laughter is universal, and certain dramedy is universal, with teenagers with the phone, how true that really is, and when the father wants the phone, I might be on the phone, like, Hey, I gotta call L.A., see whats going on. Its really interesting stuff.
A Where are you living now?
K I dont want to give an address - living in the Hollywood Hills.
A With someone?
K I, uh, rent a house.
A So youre not a houseguest.
K Not a houseguest anymore. Actually, I just bought my own place, too. So I will move in very shortly in Toluca Lake.
A Oh good! So I hear you hang out at the Mansion a lot.
K The Mansions a good place.
A So I thought maybe you were a houseguest at the Mansion.
K I would like to be a houseguest at the Mansion. I feel like I am because Im at every party. Hef is just the gracious host - great man.
A How did you get hooked up with Playboy?
K Um, had to be about 5 or 6 years ago, so I got invited to a party, they went through my publicist. I went to a party, and that was it.
A So youre a pretty popular guy. You go to a Playboy party 5 years ago for 1 party, and youve been to every party there since.
K Yea, I miss a few if Im out of town,
A What is the secret to your popularity? Why are you so popular? What is it?
K Oh well, I guess its meeting people like you or articles that are printed. I think its just, you have to be yourself, and hopefully people maybe see themselves in me, and maybe they can kind of relate to it, so vicariously, I think, people want to live through me. Ao Im the guy, Im kind of like the, uh, Everyman, so I think people just relate to that.
A That youre not like super successful but youre trying?
K No, I always try to be successful. I mean, I work very hard at what Im doing, my entire career is just working hard every day and
A Arent you kind of a struggling actor though? I mean, you havent had a huge movie or a huge blockbuster, thats what Im talking about.
K Well no, but I think its not going to happen until I prove myself in smaller parts. Ive done probably, this last year, about 4 different films that will be coming out, with small parts that people are going to go, Hes good! I hope.
A So do you think people relate to you because of your struggle, that youre optimisstic, and that youre trying they see themselves in you?
K Yea, I think so. I think people from, lets face it from, people move out to L.A. to be discovered, thats sort of thing. Im from the Mid West, so I think people see that if he can do it, then I can do it. So Im sort of, like I say, The Everyman, and I think lately things have been very successful for me, and Ive been working pretty much constantly. And I, you know...
A Do you think that the OJ trial really set you over the top? And that, you know, put you in the limelight?
K I think it made me famous, but I think its a double edged sword. Its not a good thing. I dont like to be known for the OJ trial and now Im overcoming it. But its been six years, and Ive had a SAG card over 17 years. People should realize that I shot a Coke commercial back in 1986. So, you know, Ive been around a long time. I carry my Screen Actors Guild Card.
A When did you move out of the guesthouse in Brentwood?
K Um, probably the next day.
A Where did you go?
K I lived at a friends house for a while, and then I got a place in Beverly Hills.
A Where did you grow up? Where did you come from originally?
K Fetus, embryo, sperm, zygote, then Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I was raised there. A family of six siblings, and we were raised in a four bedroom guesthouse. But it was a rough childhood. Ill tell you why. My dad was our baseball coach, and he could be cruel sometimes. He traded me for a player to be born later. I love my dad.
A So what was your mom like?
K My father passed away. My mom is just the most loving woman, we call her Mrs. Claus, shes like Santa Claus wife would be. Best woman in the world. I love her dearly, Im going to see her tomorrow. Im flying home to surprise her.
A When did you come to Los Angeles?
K I went to Wisconsin...which is the second biggest university in Wisconsin. I played baseball there, and I decided to, in 1980 I thought I could become a pro, so I went to Cal State Fullerton, which doesnt mean anything to you right now, but thats like the biggest baseball school. And I thought, everybody becomes pros that goes to Cal State Fullerton. So I transferred schools, and I realized that at that time in my life I was very immature, and I had no facial - nothing. I was - my body had not developed yet. I was a late bloomer.
A At 18 years old?
K 18, 19, I had absolutely - I had not developed at all. My voice was still cracking, and I realized these guys that were playing baseball at Cal State had beards, facial hair, and they were very muscular, and I was just this wirey 150 pound guy, but at Wisconsin I was fine. I was a pretty good pitcher. I won the State for my high school, and I thought, you know, visions of grandeur, that Id become a pro ball player.
A So the big leagues were a little too much.
K Yea, I mean I noticed that ten years after, I started developing more. I mean, I started lifting weights and running. I did a few marathons.
A Did you play baseball?
K Off and on, sometimes, Id throw the ball. I play in a basketball league more. I mean, I play in a Wednesday league and a Monday league with a bunch of actors.
A Where in Hollywood?
K Ones at Fairfax and ones at Sony.
A Cool! What do you want to do with your life?
K When I grow up...when I grow up, well, Ill tell you what, whats going on in my life right now is the most exciting. I have so much faith and passion in my show. I really believe in it. Its extremely funny. I think its a dramedy, to see the reactions of people. When you live with a family, you see how they open up to someone they think they know, but they really dont know me, and yet, people wonder. I think its a culture right now where fame - and people want to be famous, and a camera in a room makes people perform, and its amazing how different people react and how they bring out their problems in someone they trust, and they trust me. I am very passionate about the show.
A Who is your idol, like, in your whole life, what man did you admire the most?
K You know what, I never idolized anybody, and Im totally against idolizing anybody. Im always happy. I think, be happy with who you are. I mean, I appreciate other people with things they can do.
A Who do you admire a lot?
K I admire anyone who actually cures people. Anybody that gives their time to helping other people out, people who dont have anything, like Mother Theresa. I knew Mother Theresa when she was Terry. She was a player. She is the best.
A Describe your ideal woman?
K My ideal woman would be a Nubian princess who goes by the name of Alana. I always thought thatd be a great name. Alana, it just sounds like a great name.
A And what would she be like? Could she talk?
K She could talk. Yea. Its funny, too, because Barbie, Barbie the Barbie doll, Barbie and I have the exact same birthday. Barbies actually from Wisconsin. This is all true. March 9th, 1959, she comes from Wisconsin, she comes from a family of six. This is all facts people fax me over. Honest to God.
A The Mattel doll, Barbie Mattel?
K Right. Its amazing. We put down the comparisons of Kato and Barbie, and it was amazing how similar - by the way, Ive been to Barbies house, the guesthouse, very small, the guest towels even smaller.
A So you relate to the original Barbie?
K I dont relate to her at all.
A But you have a lot of similarities.
K I guess so, yea. She lived at other peoples houses - so did I.
A Back to Alana, would she be like Barbie?
K No. I think shed be a highly educated person that speaks five languages and...cause I think thats really interesting to speak different languages.
A Do you?
K Two, English and Kato. I speak a little broken Spanish, and shes teaching me French right now.
A Who, Barbie?
K My girlfriend is.
A Oh great! Is she French?
K No shes Greek, from Greece.
A Interesting. You look Greek.
K Oh really?
A Yea, you could be Greek. What is your favorite place?
K When Im winning - Las Vegas.
A What three people would you like to be there if you were there?
K Lets see, I guess it would have to be, in one group, the Beatles as a one see me winning at the blackjack table, with me. Lets see, who else would be there? It would have to be Wayne Newton, hes Mr. Vegas.
A You like him.
K Mmm, hes Mr. Vegas. And uh, my girfriend - seeing me win. That would be it.
A What is your favorite pastime, favorite thing to do in the world?
K Uh, my favorite pastime is to be with my buddies laughing our butts off, hanging out with my good friends, hanging out and laughing - my favorite pastime.
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